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 Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: Finish Kare 1000P, 2685 & 425 |
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This is a copy and paste from the original at Valet & Detail forums - dated 01/01/2009:
For Christmas, my dear wife got me a couple of polishes from Serious Performance and the Finish Kare sample kit. Clever lass ... best present, with a Guinness gift pack from our daughter a very close second 
What do you get in the sample pack?
| Quote: | Want to get a taste of FK1? Then this is for you. With this kit you will be able to detail the interior and exterior of your vehicle like a pro while discovering what puts FK1 in a league of its own.
Kit Includes - 7 4 oz containers; 118SC Car Wash, 121 Ultimate Cleaner, 303 Glaze, 2180 Ultra Seal, 108 Top Kote. 425 Ultra Slick Poly Wipe Spray Detailer, 2685 Pink Wax. |
http://www.fk1usa.com/products-consumer.htm
Getting the products proved a little problematic, since an order placed on the 18th and delivered by private courier had not arrived by Christmas Eve ... and had still not arrived by the 29th. Good old Alex at Serious Performance simply sent me another package by Royal Mail on the 30th (which arrived the very next day ... well done Royal Mail) along with a couple of extras, one of which was the much spoken about Finish Kare 1000P Hi-Temp Sealant which comes in the form of a paste in a little tin.
I had intended to try out this kit on my white car, except for the Finish Kare 2685 Pink Wax which delivers depth ... and I don't like depth on the white car; I like bright glossiness. The Finish Kare 2685 Pink Wax was destined for the black car and the Finish Kare 1000P Hi-Temp Sealant came as such a welcome surprise that I decided to try out both on the black car and give the paint a final spritz down with the much praised Finish Kare 425 Ultra-Slick Poly Wipe Spray Detailer.
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/fk1/DSCF9975.jpg
I know ... I know ... that pad is touching the ground  It's my stuff, my car and my review ... I'll do what I like thank you very much 
So ... you know what's next, don't you ... yes, the test panel boot on the black car.
Here's what we started with ...
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/fk1/DSCF9970.jpg
... which I cleaned up with some Autobright Dry Wash, which is a waterless wash with a little polish in there and presumably some carnauba in there.
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/fk1/DSCF9974.jpg
Ready for a layer of Finish Kare 1000P?
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/fk1/DSCF9977.jpg
I had read what a pain this product is to remove, but that was not my experience. I used a yellow foam applicator which was wiped into the surface of the sealant. The sealant is very hard indeed and while it does melt with a finger rubbed into the top it seems quite hard to get any out of the tin - a hard sealant, indeed. That said, a very little goes a very long way and I applied a thin layer across the panel with great ease - the sealant spread really well and did not dry out part way through application. This sealant cures very quickly and buffing off after only a couple of minutes was really easy, too.
What do Finish Kare say about the product?
| Quote: | | Developed from a West German process called Synthesis 1000P is a blend of advanced pure synthetic materials. The result is a paste wax characterized by melting temps. of 250+ degrees, extreme hardness, extreme slickness, high gloss, and intensive wear without the quality fluctuations found in natural waxes. 1000P delivers heavy duty resistance to UV, hard water, acid rain, bug spatter, tree sap etc while creating a customer appearance. Excellent for use on all automotive paint, gel coat and metal surfaces including critical aircraft surfaces. |
Cleaning: Low 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 High
Gloss: Low 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 High
Depth : Low 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 High
Protection: Low 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 High
Durability: Low 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 High
So, low cleaning which is good for layering and using on top of a layered set of products but not a great depth, made up for by high gloss, strong protection and long durability. I have read that a perfect partner to this sealant is the 2685 Pink Wax, which delivers a depth over the top.
Ready for a layer of Finish Kare 2685 Pink Wax?
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/fk1/DSCF9978.jpg
... just a little smear is all that is needed.
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/fk1/DSCF9980.jpg
Again, I found this wax of very much the same behaviour to apply and remove. The smell of both is quite chemically, but not unpleasant; more like reasonably pleasant furniture wax.
What do Finish Kare say about the product?
| Quote: | Using an advanced process #2685 is blended from #1 Brazilian Carnauba Wax and durable poly resins. The result is a soft easy on easy off past wax which delivers a ultra deep, ultra wet, ultra glossy custom show car finish. Excellent for use on all automotive and aircraft finishes.
Note: For extra effect base coat with 2180 Ultra Seal. Multiple applications of 2685 will result in increased depth, slickness, wetness and will conceal stubborn fine scratches and spider webbing. |
Cleaning: Low 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 High
Gloss: Low 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 High
Depth: Low 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 High
Protection: Low 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 High
Durability: Low 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 High
Again, low cleaning which is good for layering (and notice that Finish Kare recommend layering this product), high gloss and depth but protection and durability is not as good as the underlying paste sealant. I'll get another couple of layers down over the coming couple of days. I can't say I noticed much increase in depth, but maybe that will become more apparent in due course and with more layers. It is certainly a bright, glossy look which I normally do not like on the black car (preferring deep, oily blackness to glossiness) but this seems to work well.
For fun, I cleaned up the bonnet with Autobright Dry Wash and then spritzed the panel over with Finish Kare 425 Ultra-Slick Poly Wipe Spray Detailer.
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/fk1/DSCF99830.jpg
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/fk1/DSCF9987.jpg
This product came out in a very fine mist and four or five pumps was sufficient for the bonnet. I wiped it in front/back stripes on the bonnet and then buffed it off. Easy enough ;-) Again, I'm not sure on the the looks or the feel above my favourite QD, Lucas Slick Mist, but maybe black is not the best colour to reveal its best - it's certainly okay and I'll know more about it after some rain and a couple more uses.
I gave the boot a quick spritz down, too:
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/fk1/DSCF9997.jpg
Nice, eh? While the photographs do look much the same and are really just a nice set of pictures of those trees over the road reflected in the paint, what I hoped to show off was the brightness of the finish.
... one last thing ...
I wanted to try out the polishes from Serious Performance and moved over to the white car. The Fine Cut and Finishing Polishes were both very good - I say that, but I don't have a huge experience of polishes 
I worked by hand and used a white terry applicator (one of those with a pocket from Halfords, I think) and picked the boot since it has the most obvious scratches that can be seen easily. I'm afraid I was unable to photograph the process, but I will say that after a couple of hits of the Fine Cut, the boot was dramatically improved and scratches still present but very much visually diminished. The Fine Cut could be heard on the paint and had a long work time, not drying out, able to be spread over the whole panel and worked hard for a good couple of minutes after which the sound of the abrasiveness in the polish died off. A lovely creaking finish was left by this polish, bright and reflective paint. Grey in colour, the Finishing polish was much wetter and could not be heard on the paint - I noticed some moisture coming out on the paint and it spread well and again, was able to be massaged into the paint for a good couple of minutes.
I have a more grand plan for the white car, which will involve polishing the whole car with the Fine Cut polish and then splitting the car straight down the middle for a Serious Performance finishing polish, cleanse and sealant on one side versus Finish Kare 303 Foam Pad Glaze and 2180 Ultra Poly Wipe Sealant on the other side. The whole car will then be finished with 1000P Hi-Temp Sealant with half of the bonnet and half of the roof further layered with 2685 Pink Wax across both product finishes. The car will be washed with the 118SC Super Concentrate Shampoo.
For now, I just wanted to see what the 1000P is like after a simple polish. The photograph does not quite capture it, but I was astonished how bright and glossy the resulting finish was:
http://www.pjgh.co.uk/gallery_albums/fk1/DSCF9994.jpg
I must say, I was a little sceptical about these products but tried to keep an open mind. I get the feeling I'll prefer just this finish to one with a layer of 2685 Pink Wax over the top, but we'll see when I get the whole car dealt with as described above. This is glossier than I remember Duragloss 601/105, which I was very impressed with indeed and more reflective than I recall Chemical Guys Jetseal 109 being - I'll try to find time to qualify those sentiments with some comparison patches of the other products, likewise versus Collinite 476S.
I've had some fun ... a little time and perhaps some rain will tell me a lot more about whether I like these products, but first impressions are very positive indeed. |
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